Would You Prefer a Civil War or World War Three?

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Dave Hodges

The United States is on a collision course with a intense civil war. We can argue if the coming civil war will be conventional or guerrilla. However, many of us feel that we have reached the point of no come back and that civil strife is inevitable. A political solution to our several problems would have been my recommended choice, but that ship sailed several years ago. I know that the cognitive dissonance crowd will not believe this, however, nobody from that mindset can answer the most real question in the discussion based upon the present circumstances:

Would You Prefer a Civil War or World War Three

If a civil war was not inevitable, then explain how the military and this administration are going to get past the fact that this “false flag” President has fired over 200+ military command officers?

And there is a second important question:

Why have 14 state governors restructured their respective state military organizations so that they are not under the control of Obama?

A Military Rebellion Is Unavoidable

Whenever 200+ leaders of any organization are fired in a short period of time, the person doing the firing has formed a group which opposes them. These military leaders had great influence and close ties over those that they have commanded. Obama just did not fire over 200+ military commanders, he alienated, tens if not hundreds of thousands of military personnel who based their professional loyalty to their military commanders and they will resist their foreign born Commander-In-Chief as a result of this betrayal of trust.

This is not a question of some of us in the media who desire for this happen. We have no say in the matter. And father time is defeating many of us, as several of us are too old to fight and too fat to run! It is not up to us as these conditions, which are ripe for a civil war, were forced upon our nation by Obama and his handlers.

Some Questions for the Fence-Sitting Sheep

Do you not think the executive officers under the command of the fired military leaders understood the issues behind the firing of their commanding officers? Was not the entire command structure in Afghanistan alienated from Obama when McChrystal was fired, largely over rules of engagement? Do you not think that all service personnel in Iraq and Afghanistan understand that this buffoon of a President increases their chances of not coming home alive, because of Obama’s treasonous rules of engagement which endangers American soldiers? Do you not think that if many of us in the alternative media can find evidence of a massive Russian troop buildup, including the presence of Russian heavy equipment on our soil, that the military is not already resentful of the fact that they have to wet nurse these future martial law enforcing troops and that they are from a nation that has repeatedly threatened to nuke America in the past 15 months? Do you think  our military commanders are looking forward to the participation of Chinese and Russian soldiers in the upcoming RIMPAC war games? Do you not think that the upper echelon of the military is not scared to death that in a time of civil unrest, or civil war, that we have 200,000 troops, stationed in foreign countries, who will not likely get home? Do you think the Generals in the Pentagon do not know the commanders in Afghanistan, or Iraq? Do you not think there are not close personal relationships in and among our military leaders stationed around the world and there is not an overall awareness in the military that the President is playing for the other side? Do you sheep really believe that the next time our noncommissioned officers send another young American home in a body bag because of the President’s rules of engagement, that the resentment towards this administration does not grow exponentially? Do you not think that present active duty personnel do not hear from their veteran friends who have come back home, that the Obama administration now refers to veterans, in DHS documents, as domestic terrorists and that Obama is going after their guns because he fears them? If we can find out about Obama’s fake birth certificate and his anti-American sentiment, do you not think that our troops have not learned these lessons a long time ago? Most American military commanders are loyal to each other and have been trained to risk their lives on behalf of their fellow soldiers. Why do you think that when someone from the executive branch flies into Afghanistan, that the troops must be disarmed because of previous shooting incidents? Does anyone really believe that our military enjoys sleeping with the enemy? And who do you think they blame? After considering all of these facts, do you sheep still believe that it will not take much provocation to get the troops to act against the modern day KGB in America (i.e. DHS)? Hell, even Ray Charles could see this is fertile breeding ground for a civil war! If this was Stalinist Russia, these military officers would have been shot in the back of the head. Fortunately for these 200+ deposed military commanders, our modern communications system would make it impossible for Obama to purge the military in the same manner as Stalin did without incurring the ire of an entire nation. However, the end result is the same. The military is being purged because it will not act against the American people and you can take that to the bank. The best we can hope for in the present set of circumstances, is a military coup and that, my friends, never ends well and I lose sleep over this possibility. If we do not change course, our greatest fears will be realized because the sides are already drawn and it will not be long until all hell breaks loose across our country.

An Epic Struggle Is Taking Shape

In one corner, we have the DHS led federal agencies accompanied by their muscle; the Chinese, the Russians and the Canadians. If this group prevails in the upcoming struggle, Mao will have to forfeit his title as the most murderous dictator in world history. There are members of the NWO who do not want two stones left together in this country. They want as many of us to die as possible (see the Georgia Guide Stones). They want to leave no trail of the traditional American notions of freedom and independence because these notions are a formidable roadblock to the lethal scientific dictatorship being installed on this planet. Americans are in the crosshairs of history. American Christians will soon become the most hunted game on the planet because we represent freedom, autonomy and obedience to God’s laws and not blind obedience to the dictates of genocidal leaders. In our corner, the other corner, we have a large segment of the American military and some of the American citizenry, largely veterans, who will oppose the attempts to finalize the tyranny being installed across the planet.  This is an all-stakes, winner-take-all battle. Soon, even the sheep are going to be forced to choose sides.

No Pleasant Alternatives

The coming conflict will not have a good outcome no matter who wins. If the military and the American citizens prevail, all we will likely accomplish is to replace one brutal dictatorship with another. If the other side wins, there is nowhere that will be safe. All of us will become, by definition, an endangered species.

Fourteen Governors Have Acquired Some Temporary Courage Against Tyranny

I have previously written that I have recently spoken with a high ranking military officer who was fired because he would not help DHS to completely control a fully integrated state-to-state national guard organization. He was unwilling to voluntarily hand the keys to the car to a communist such as Obama whom he perceived as someone who was dedicated to the destruction of this country. This officer’s resolve was shocking, but now I understand why. In retrospect, he was lucky that he was only fired. Why has DHS armed to the teeth? The answer is simple, Obama is facing opposition to not only his failed policies like Obamacare and he is facing the possibility of organized military resistance at the state level in several locations. There is presently an armed uprising directed at him by the select governors of 14 different states and that number is continuing to grow. To the previous point I raised as to why Obama is moving to nationalize the National Guard Forces, the answer is simple. Fourteen governors are militarily organizing against Obama. States such as Alabama, Georgia, Kansas, Minnesota, Tennessee, Virginia, Louisiana and South Carolina, are saying no to the increasing level of tyranny. These state military entities have been structured in such a way that they cannot become federalized. This is highly significant because the vast amount of federal/DHS resources used to federalize local police forces is now being undermined in these 14 states.

Obama Is Not Just Facing An Armed Rebellion From the Military

Fourteen state governors have reestablished State Defense Forces which includes any and all militias and the national guard. The authority over these troops does not rest with the President and he is furious. Obviously, these 14 governors are talking and planning amongst each other because their actions are so uniform and have happened in such a narrow time frame, that their actions are clearly an act of insubordination to Obama. In 14 states, the 10th Amendment still has life. These actions by the 14 governors are one short step away from armed rebellion. I am confident that any and all attempts on the part of the Hessian troops on American soil to move against dissident Americans and to enforce martial law will be militarily opposed in these 14 states. When will 14 governors militarily opposed to Obama become 30, become 40? I cannot overstate how significant this development is. We are “One shot heard around the world” from all hell breaking lose.


It is clear that the peoples’ closest elected representatives have had enough of this criminal organization as have our military. All citizens in the 36 states who are not militarily rising up against Obama, need to demand the same actions from their respective governors. Obama cannot act against a nation that is unified against him. However, this does mean that the bankers will push for WWIII to bring about their desired result if an internal takeover of America cannot be accomplished.

There is even a third wild card factor that has not been discussed anywhere in the media. Does anyone really think that the military industrial complex supports Obama’s desire to bring down the American military? Will the conquering hordes of Chinese and Russian troops allow these capitalist pigs to make as much as they are under the existing system?

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  1. doesntmatter January 9, 2014 at 11:57 pm - Reply

    blah blah blah…how about I would prefer a spriritual war…that way civil, world, and any other kind of war would be forever eliminated. yes?

    • 5 War Veteran January 10, 2014 at 5:49 am - Reply

      I would support that!

  2. 5 War Veteran January 7, 2014 at 4:02 am - Reply

    “Several of us are too old to fight and too fat to run!” I may be in this wheel chair but I can still crawl and I can still shoot and hit the target every time. I may not last long but I guarantee I will not waste time or ammo. I am readily die to support the American people and fight for this Country that Obama is willfully selling to the Chinese.
    There is a Domestic Threat and that threat is undermining the US Constitution as we write these words.
    Any idiot that still believes in Obama has lost all sense of reality. Any president who claims his father fought in WWII when his father could not have been older than 9 or younger than 3 years old during WWII (as per the Presidents own claims previously) is an effing liar and he has been caught in over 300 blatant lies to the public in the US Media.
    Why does the Lame Stream Media allow that shit?
    Because they all work for the criminal Wealthy Elite.
    Civil War? It is American’s responsibility to clean house instead of letting the criminals use us and out tax dollars to pay for Wars that support Zionist Foreign Policy.

    Sadly any fool that thinks waiting for another Election and expecting that will fix the situation is fully and completely deluded. You cannot expect the same kind of thinking and system that created and allowed for this situation to also be able to fix it.

    Politics? A system who if run properly will lead inevitably to betterment for all mankind. Every year and every election there should only be improvement.

    What did happen? The rich got richer and the poor got poorer and the middle class has been cunt in half and is still expected to pay for ALL OF IT.

    Government spending is higher that ever before in the history of the PLANET. The Wealthy are wealthier than ever before and THEY WANT MORE, THEY WANT IT ALL. They even want to control HOW, WHEN AND WHERE you have to shit.

    They want to control whether or not you have children and then when you actually get to have sex. The want and most have access to your checking accounts and they monitor every transaction. They want to eliminate cash so everything you do is done digitally and monitored. So they can determine if you are some kind of threat to them.

    Why? Because they know they are using you, they know they are criminal and they realize some of us are waking up. They ARE AFRAID. They would not be afraid if they were not breaking laws that you and I would go to jail for.

    Join the Veterans Part of America and let us have a third voice in Washington because the other two have been bought by the Criminal Elite.

  3. youare January 7, 2014 at 3:14 am - Reply

    what is wrong with you……

  4. Rev. Bob Celeste January 7, 2014 at 1:02 am - Reply

    God willing, and he doesn’t die or become incapacitated, Maine will have a Secession candidate in the 2018 race for the Governor’s office.

    Can Maine secede? According to the Constitution it can.


    (Arranged by the Chief Justice of the Maine Supreme Judicial Court and approved by the Maine State Legislature,
    Resolve 2003, chapter 98, pursuant to the Constitution of Maine, Article X, Section 6)

    Objects of government. We the people of Maine, in order to establish justice, insure tranquility, provide for our mutual defense, promote our common welfare, and secure to ourselves and our posterity the blessings of liberty, acknowledging with grateful hearts the goodness of the Sovereign Ruler of the Universe in affording us an opportunity, so favorable to the design; and, imploring God’s aid and direction in its accomplishment, do agree to form ourselves into a free and independent State, by the style and title of the State of Maine and do ordain and establish the following Constitution for the government of the same.
    Article I.
    Declaration of Rights.

    Section 1. Natural rights. All people are born equally free and independent, and have certain natural, inherent and unalienable rights, among which are those of enjoying and defending life and liberty, acquiring, possessing and protecting property, and of pursuing and obtaining safety and happiness.

    Section 2. Power inherent in people. All power is inherent in the people; all free governments are founded in their authority and instituted for their benefit; they have therefore an unalienable and indefeasible right to institute government, and to alter, reform, or totally change the same, when their safety and happiness require it.


  5. Janus January 7, 2014 at 12:39 am - Reply

    I would like to understand why you are involving Canada on the list of nations that want to destroy the US. you said “In one corner, we have the DHS led federal agencies accompanied by their muscle; the Chinese, the Russians and the Canadians.“

    Russian and Chinese are usually said o be the worst threat to Canada and to the US of A.

    If you could please enlighten me, I would be grateful.

    • 5 War Veteran January 8, 2014 at 3:43 am - Reply

      It would not be the average “common” Canadian. When we consider Canada we must only consider the ruling party. Remember they have “socialist medicine” and they want America on line with that. The people of Canada already know what America will be losing with the ACA (Obamacare). I have a family member who fell 6 months ago and broke her skull. The ER (Canadian) doctor did not send her to get an MRI. When she went in last week for a follow up because she is losing her eye sight. The Doctor wondered why an MRI was not ordered and then the paperwork nurse wh=rote in her records that she had an MIR and that it came back “normal”.
      What do you call that besides “falsification of records”? Now there is an entry that covers the ass of the trauma ER doctor and she cannot get an actual MRI because “she already had one”. Such are the crimes of “socialized medicine.” The US Military does these things to soldiers too.
      They “lost mu medical records when I retired disabled after 22 years. With the last two years on medical hold. They actually wrote that I was “Fit for duty ashore and overseas” while I was in a wheel chair. The US Navy avoided responsibility for the disability and I had to go to the VA for coverage. The VA ordered my records and I was told they were not available. Oddly enough I provided Portsmouth Hospital with prepaid mailing envelopes so they could send then DIRECTLY to my local VA Hospital. They never arrived. S0 I wasted the $36 in fees.
      Luckily I learned to make copies of my medical records and provided those to the VA personally.
      Within 3 months I was rated at 60% and within 2 years after testing rated 100% (240% cumulative). The US Navy got out of being responsible because they lied and purposefully lost my medical records. I was force retired in 1996.
      However in 1978 a typographical error reported me KIA while on deployment. My wife was greeted by two military personnel with the “news”. She freaked. She called my outfit and learned that I was not dead just away on a Top Secret mission. They arranged for me to get communications to relieve her fears, yet she was also provided checks from my insurance policies. Which had to be returned. Damn!
      My medical records at that time were transferred to St Louis. Where they send the records of the dead.
      So why Canada? Because they do these things as well to avoid being responsible and they quickly hide their errors with lies.

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