New Attack on 2nd Amendment: Obama Says Substance Abusers Cannot Own Firearms

truther September 13, 2012 12


Susanne Posel

The Obama Administration through the Justice Department has given the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) the authority to “seize and administratively forfeit property involved in controlled-substance abuses.” In effect: those who are convicted of crimes involving alcohol and/or substance abusers will have their right to bear arms revoked.

By misuse of the civil-forfeiture doctrine, constitutional rights can be circumvented while the owner of the property will have it taken without recourse.

In 2010, the Department of Justice published that document entitled, “Investigating Terrorism and Criminal Extremism” wherein the definition of “constitutionalist” is reworked to reflect a “generic term for members of the ‘patriot’ movement. It is now often used to refer to members of the sovereign citizen or common law court movement. Sometimes the word ‘constitutionalist’ is also used.”

This document attempts to down play the term New World Order by explaining it as a term “used by conspiracy theorists to refer to a global conspiracy designed to implement worldwide socialism.” This ideal is “targeted by right-wing extremists” as bad yet those types are afraid that “Jewish people ultimately [will] control the world.”

The FBI surmises that “Sovereign citizens are anti-government extremists who believe that even though they physically reside in this country, they are separate or ‘sovereign’ from the United States. As a result, they believe they don’t have to answer to any government authority, including courts, taxing entities, motor vehicle departments, or law enforcement” and that these citizens are a domestic terror threat.

Last month, Brian Loftus, member of Oathkeepers, was unduly harassed for purchasing “a few boxes of ammunition.”

Former US Marine Brandon Raub was indefinitely detained in a VA psychiatric hospital for speaking out against the US government on Facebook.
Raub’s attorney, John Whitehead of the Rutherford Institute, has stated that he is receiving correspondence from people across America that report that US veterans are being detained in psychiatric hospitals for speaking out against the US government.

Because of the Department of Homeland Security report entitled Rightwing Extremism, the US government is coming after US veterans; decrying them as domestic terrorists, extremists and white supremacists.

In July of this year, Obama vowed to “curb violence in American cities, including reasonable restrictions on gun ownership.”

As a Senator, Obama supported and pushed for anti-gun legislation. He admonished Congress back then as being “slow to act” on the issues he felt were an imperative.

During the Fast and Furious scandal it was revealed that the ATF was exposed in emails to have been part of the covert operation that was designed to justify a new gun regulation called “Demand Letter 3” that would require gun shops and owners to report sales of multiple gun sales to individuals.

In the speech to the National Urban League, Obama eluded to the US government defining and declaring who is mentally stable enough to have the right to gun ownership.

Psychiatric doctors have seen money in the words of Obama and are rallying to claim that supporting the 2nd Amendment is tantamount to having a mental disorder.

Some psychiatrists are asserting that there needs to be a national healthcare approach to the issue of allowing the 2nd Amendment to stand.

Propaganda studies into gun ownership claim that alcohol abuse causes the likelihood of gun-related violence to rise, according to Dr. Garen Wintemute, professor of emergency medicine at the Prevention Research Program.

Banning assault weapons would control the amount of rounds a person could shoot, while the police officers would still be allowed to tout automatic pistols. By restricting gun sales to include minor misdemeanors as well as convicted felons, 40% of gun sales would be curbed. And with the classification of gun support as a mental disorder, more control could be placed on who ultimately can own a gun.


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  1. Michael Cook November 10, 2012 at 3:07 pm - Reply

    That’ll rule Obama out, that cocaine sniffing faggot of all that is the President of the USA. Ask Larry Sinclair about “President” Obama.

  2. DDearborn September 14, 2012 at 9:19 pm - Reply


    First this is once again flat out illegal because it is a violation of the second amendment. But what is not mentioned but is the real intent here is Obama trying to circumvent the second amendment by stating that a simple misdemeanor is enough to revoke your inalienable right to bear arms. And that means that in essence a simple traffic violation which is also a misdemeanor will result in your guns being taken away.

    Please the President is not a dictator. The President nor the Congress can legally pass laws, rules or regulations that violate the Constitution.

    If those of you who support this criminal act are so sure it is legal please explain to the readers exactly where in the second amendment the government has the right to take way your guns. Enlighten us

    “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

    I don’t see the part where is says if run into trouble with the law they can take your guns.
    In fact I don’t see a single word that allows the government to take your guns for any reason.

  3. eagle lefebre September 14, 2012 at 6:33 am - Reply

    Secret Service, C.I.A., N.S.A. ,S.S.A., F.B.I., all police forces throughout the U.S. better set the example by doing in-house investigations of their own departments by independent investigators, lets not forget Department of Correction Officers, all state hospital for the insane officers who are guards. I’m sure the investigator will find more then enough “Protectors” on perscription drugs of addictive behaviors on the job 24/7. Obama with his executive orders must start with his idea in his backyard, find out the results of his closest advisors that carry weapons, their mental state of mind and the private behavorial lifes before he takes “one step for mankind.” So, the real question is…who is Barack Obama?.

  4. ARIZONA September 14, 2012 at 1:21 am - Reply

    LUCIFER knows he has but a short time left,remember he fell with a third of the angels in heaven(NOW DEMONS) when you hear anyone talking bad about the US constutition,that was given to america by GOD,you better realize your hearing a demon from hell talking( JOHN V ) for instance,OBAMA is one of LUCIFERS head DEMONS and very likely the anti-christ ,so you people out there better know him and his demon spawn are after you and whats left of your GOD GIVEN FREEDOM………………………………SO fuck off john v and go back to hell where you came from………………………………….

  5. a voice in the wilderness September 14, 2012 at 1:11 am - Reply

    I guess the millions of people that have arthritis and painful cancer conditions that are taking heavy doses of pain killing medications can”t own firearms.

  6. ARIZONA September 14, 2012 at 1:04 am - Reply

    BUT,BUT,aren’t we supposed to suck off the government terrorists,no matter how bad they treat us,and even if they do kiddnap our children and murder them,IT has to be alright ,look at the nice uniforms there waring,with all the pins and badges on them,WE can’t say NO to these people can we ??????considering OBAMA knows americans are just a pack of cowards and his cronies know it to,so when they tell you anyone who’s ugly in a no ugly zone can’t own a firearm any more it has to be true,ain’t it………………………………………..

  7. kev September 13, 2012 at 11:16 pm - Reply

    John your neglecting to realize the conclusion that is being built by the article. This is essentially a slippery slope that will eventually affect all gun owners at some point in the future. By what Obama is saying here he has the right to take away your guns if you get a DWI or get caught with a few grams of marijuana. By classifying 2nd amendment support as a mental disorder anyone who speaks out against the gun grabbers will also have their firearms . These are the tactics that the elite have been using for years to make us willingly give up our rights and it has succeeded because of people like you defending the government and failing to recognize their true motive. And in regards to substance abusers being supposedly dangerous with firearms please inform me as to why we have not had any tangible evidence backing this theory other than false logic that has no scientific backing. Some doctor saying that there is a correlation does not suffice i want to see transparent studies and statistics that prove beyond a reasonable doubt that alcohol increases gun violence. And even then it is our right in the constitution to bear arms and to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness one might argue that the pursuit of happiness can be applicable to mind altering substances.

  8. Stan Sikorski September 13, 2012 at 11:10 pm - Reply

    F*ck off Frobama! “….Shall not be infringed.” What about that does your black ass not understand?

  9. John V September 13, 2012 at 5:16 pm - Reply

    Please man! it is not an attack on the 2nd amendment it is just common sense! Of course substance abusers shouldn’t be walking around with firearms. Substance abusers with firearms are a threat to everyone! Grow some brain cells please!

    • Marie Lowrance September 13, 2012 at 8:01 pm - Reply

      B Hussein Obama is one of the biggest substance abusers out there by his own admission, and even IF he isn’t using now (which I doubt) the residual effect are still there. He has his finger of the most lethal weapon available to man kind. He wants your guns, it makes Marshall Law easier to instigate! Be very, very, afraid of whats to come!

    • Frosty September 15, 2012 at 6:20 am - Reply

      Convicted hard core drug abusers should lose their right to firearms and will If and when they go to prison. The President or Congress has no right or authority to deny anyone’s 2nd amendment right for any reason unless they are a convicted felon. Any official attempting to carry out a unlawful order should themselves be arrested by armed citizens and brought to their local magistrates court for a hearing.

      • joseph c. stockett September 16, 2012 at 2:21 am - Reply

        Once you are sanctioned and listed as unreliable informants can plant a gun on you or near you and then you can be held without bail. It could be a federal case. This happened to me in 2003 in Indiana.It was scum from the BATF and Secret Service in a lying sting operation.

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