Max Velocity
I wanted to put a few thoughts out there about the realities of your survival location. To read what is out there in terms of opinion and advice, it appears that to survive any coming apocalypse you need to be in a fortified self-sustaining retreat somewhere out in the boonies, with three years of food in the basement and the ability to grow food plus animals.
Let me first say that this post is not so concerned with the kind of short-term natural disaster that would involve you bugging out with little choice — perhaps a wildfire or earthquake or similar. What I am really concerned about here is a collapse of society, the veritable TEOTWAWKI, where it all goes to chaos, the SHTF, and we are all in a big mess surviving together.
For most of us who are not ‘super-preppers’, we will be left to survive where we are, in our suburban homes or whatever applies to you. Now, it is true that some will be better set up than others. Reasons include location, such as inner city, one-bedroom apartment versus big house on several acres in a sub-division. Or amount of preps that you have, food supplies etc.
Everything depends on the situation and the threat that emerges, including your own personal and family situation and preparations. One key thing is not to make assumptions now, but to remain flexible. My advice is not to ‘head for the hills’ by reflex, because unless you have somewhere to go you will be out there with the rest of the refugees in the chaos. If you even have a minimal amount of preparations at home you should shelter in place and make do the best you can. This should be a low-profile shelter in a place where you set yourself up to draw minimum attention to yourself as the waves of chaos pass. You may be sheltering in a basement with your family, for example.
Of course, if the threat changes, then you will need to adapt to it. An organized gang of well-armed marauders going house to house in your neighborhood would be an example of when to make the decision to bug out. Be flexible and don’t go the opposite of the ‘head for the hills’ mentality and die in your basement simply because you did not want to pack up and go. However, I think that it is a given that for anyone sheltering with supplies in this way there will at some point come one or more challenges such as home invasion from outside groups. This will also probably apply to those in rural retreats at some point as the horde fans out looking to survive. Be ready to defend yourself against these challenges as necessary. Think of how it will likely be after the event, not how things are right now. Those in the rural retreats will probably have a rude awakening when they realize that the horde has reached them and the demographics have changed!
I think that there are two main things that you have to achieve, phases if you like, in order to survive in the long term:
1) Have enough stores, firearms, tactical ability and numbers if possible, as well as a covert location in order to survive the event and the initial chaos and disorder. This is a short- to medium-term goal.
2) Long term, you will need to be able to live in a protected sustainable community. All prepper stores will run out in the end, and the only solution to survive and thrive is to be able to produce food and protect your people and your resources.
So, unless you started in a sustainable protected retreat, you will have to survive where you are until such time arrives when you can safely get to one. Remember that in a full TEOTWAWKI scenario there will be mass panic and chaos as people try to find food and survive. There will be a huge population die-off, and there will likely be a delay of a year or two before food can be produced.
So, if you survived the event and were not already in that ideal retreat, you then have to move. Did you hide and protect your bug out vehicle with a supply of stored gas? Are you going to have to walk, or use other modes of transport? The key thing is that your group will have to make it to somewhere where they can be accepted by a current sustainable community, or move onto land where they can create one. This will involve travel of some sort and also the ability to defend yourselves while moving from point A to B. If it is true TEOTWAWKI, then it could go on for years and you may have to travel to establish a farm somewhere. If you are going to be taken in by a community or small town that is sustaining itself, then you have to show your worth in some way. So, regardless of your level of preparation, it is never too late to learn the skills necessary for a post-collapse world.
Chaos wins this round!
I have chosen to live where water, food and basic security are no problem, and I also have plenty to protect myself. I can stay where I am as long as I need to, depending on the situation of DOOM!
If I ever had to ‘bug-out”, I could still do so and survive straight out for 6 months or so, but then life would start sucking. The only reason for me to do so in the first place would be if my current location were completely uninhabitable. Like a nuke or something. But if that was bad here, it would be everywhere so there isn’t much point trying to move to something better.
No, I think that in my situation it is best to plan to stay where I am, where I can prepare, sustain myself, and protect myself.
You are carrying out GODs plan Chaos. GOD creates vessels of honor as well as vessels of dishonor. As for the physical state of Israel? No, this is not the “Israel of GOD”, which only carnal mans flesh sees in the world. To live in Spirit and in Truth is not this carnal physical Israel of this world and is strong delusion sent by GOD Himself. I do not belong to any worldly congregation, so no need to head to the physical land of Israel. I attend the “Church” body not built by human hands. May you live in peace.
I think it’s important to store a year’s supply of water if you can do that. At least one gallon per person per day. Having to get water is dangerous and people will see where you go with it. I live in a small town. I don’t plan on going outside after it hits the fan except after dark to dump buckets of poo.
@End time servant: I hear you, “Those who seek to save their life shall lose it, those who give up their lives for my sake shall find it.” To ALL peoples of the earth, Let us LOVE one another,show kindness and patience and charity to one who is in need or is hungry or of thirst. Let us not live in fear and give eyes nor ears to what these blinded leaders threaten to do. Peace is assured… Stand fast and overcome. 🙂
You two should get together and bump uglies. Create some more sins to be forgiven for. Does your Church hand out the Bath salts you two are Smoking/Snorting? You Idiots can give up your lives. Travel to the Holy lands and preach your crap to some displaced Palestinians. That should end your Sheep-Minded lives , hopefully in a true Biblical style…like Stoning.
Location what a silly article when all around the USA and world people are desperate for just simple things you need to live daily and daily charity grows cold every one out for themselves there will be no where to hide sooner or later if you are not under the protection of god himself your caught and then what your judgement might be very close do you care or may e some one brained washed you to believe your going to heaven just like thst no way start doing the right thing pray as a family fathers beg and lead your family to god in being holy daily and follow the commandments of god
Why do we need Charity from fellow Humans? According to you … God will feed and shelter us… Either we carry out God’s Plan…or you can hold your breath and wait for God to help you. No thanks, I will step over your corpse and keep doing my own thing.
Thak you for the information, although I admit it is a dizzying proposition and premise. My head has been spinning for some time. I do not know if this scenario will indeed play out, but I am willing to hedge my bet in some way, every day.
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For those of you who Buy Tons of Gold. While you are starving, I will eat. While you are thirsty, I will drink. If you need security, I will be secure. When you die from thirst and starvation your love of Money and Gold will betray you. The well fed , well armed Survivalist will come and take your Gold while you are rotting in your deathbeds.